In the ex meeting room or in the board room, we tendency to ask engineering leaders how long is it going to take to bill chason on the spot? And at most, a couple of days. So i think this struck me a long time ago when i was working with sales organizations and was running ithe protanging organization. People hae taid, know, we just don't know ye to plan so we can plan out the rest of the organization about what we're goin to go do. Well, there's two things i think better move: One is at scale, and i'm mong to jump to the middle of this first and then come back to both sid

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