i think the books that i most enjoy are books that help us take ancient wisdom and put them in conversation with our current experience. I've bee reading lots ofo o, kind ofa creat ive non fiction recently which e, so mary carr an, this is some wonderful stuff. And then someone like seth godan who just gives me a kind of a kick up the backside and says, you know, go create something. Do not don't wade around. It's never going to be perfect.

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