How Do You Make the Secular Argument for Him?

M, how do you make the secular argument for him? Am, wemes gos well, in the sense that i thought that the book would, i mean, i ovvesly have had some, i've had negative responses. But am, though they're ladtet, they're probably the most common response I've had is people saying, thank you for saying it. You can actually do a fairly empirical piece of work and say, well, here are all the ways in which society is a better if we decide upon this collective sort of action. Even if it might not necessarily be better for some individual, it's better for everyone on mass, you know. Redist