Ep. 525 — Amb. Michael McFaul
The Axe Files with David Axelrod
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The History of NATO Expansion
John Avlon: The history of relations between NATO and Russia before it has always been a complicated issue but John, Professor Mirchimer wants you to believe that it was always confrontational. Avlon: Putin's really threatened by democracy. He's not NATO is maybe a proxy for that, but it was the democratic revolution in Ukraine in 2014 that threatened him.Avlon: As a social scientist, there's got to be something else to the story. It just can't be NATO because it's been up and down.
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