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78: Cathy Heller | Being Creative in Spite of Your Day Job

The Jordan Harbinger Show

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The Importance of Asking People

"I know Tony Robbins is always like, all I do is surround myself with the best. And I ask them what they're doing and constantly, he's like, I'm constantly literally giving myself an education," she said. "It's really easy to look at someone like you and go, well, she just showed up in LA and is like crushing it." She added that every single one of her kids had to go through fertility treatment, but not one time.

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