I was aiming to go into advertising, not Direct Marketing because there were probably only two Direct Marketing agencies which actually recruited graduates. But it was the luckiest accident of my life really, in the sense that I found it absolutely fascinating from more or less day one. David Oglew always recommended you should spend three or four years in Direct Marketing before you go into advertising. Nudge must have come out around about 2009 when I discovered there was this whole field of inquiry in the human decision making. And so I think that data measurement analytics, behavioral science and creativity forms sort of three legs of a stool.

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