Introduction

keven esvelt is a tist at m i t, where he leads the sculpting evolution group. He's probably most famous for inventing crisper, which acts like finely targeted molecular scissors that you can programm to edit an organisms genum. Our conversation has two halves. In the first half, we're talking about an important and urgent argument that kevin has been making publicly about how research that's intended to prevent pendemics is actually putting us in a lot more danger. The second half of rationally speaking explores the borderlands between reason and nonsense.