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73. Scale, Mess And Debt

The Sam Ovens Podcast

What Did He Do? What Is His Magic Trick?

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In 18 we got to fully exploit those systems. But then at the end, in 19 most of the problems that came up were human problems, not system problems. And I had to learn how to better run a team, how to hire better talent and really how to deal with the human side of business more than the system side. That's where most of my focus has been. So what I'm doing now in 19, it's not the most exciting of work. We will go back a bit here on revenue, not that much.

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