i believe in painful experiences, right? Some experiences are incredibly, unimaginably painful. But every single time i've had a painful experience, what i thought was a bad experience, i saw on the other side that at some level there was some meaning to it. Even if in this life you can't zoom out high enough to see the big picture, cause we're locked in right here. The buttond ones of going outside your mind, we all seek it. And i think some of the stuff we were talking about there was seeki meaning in everything like that. It's the reason why every culture around the world has always engaged in altered states of consciousness - some in a healthy way

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