Introduction

This week on the Jolly Swagman Podcast we talk to Ryan Holiday, one of my favorite authors. He's authored multiple best-selling books including Trust Me I'm Lying and The Obstacle is the Way which is a meditation on late Roman stoicism. His most recent book is Conspiracy which is about the battle between Peter Thiel, the billionaire, founder of PayPal and first outside investor in Facebook and Gorka who was founded right here in Manhattan. So Peter Thiel brought down Gorka through a huge multi-million dollar lawsuit which he secretly funded. It was actually Hulk Hogan suing Gorka for publishing a sex tape of his. But more about that in the episode as to why Peter Thiel