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Designing Better Conversations with Fred Dust

Minds and Mics

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How to Facilitate Internal Change

Nick Gillespie: The idea of starting, starting outside in order to facilitate internal change is like such an important idea. He says we're far more constrained in our theorizing than we think we like to think that if I just think hard enough, I'll figure out all the answers to everything. "You have to get out there in the world to get real information that then can inform how you think"

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