In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Hungarian political director Balázs Orbán for an in-depth conversation on nationalism, migration, the European Union, and the war in Ukraine.

We discuss Hungary’s vision of an emerging era of nations, the collapse of the liberal global order, and why national sovereignty has returned as the central political question of the twenty-first century. Orbán explains Hungary’s historical experience, its defence of Christian culture, and why mass migration has been rejected as a threat to social cohesion and national survival.

The conversation explores Europe’s migration crisis, parallel societies, border control, deportation, and why Hungary believes Western Europe made irreversible mistakes. We also examine the growing backlash against Brussels, the democratic deficit within the European Union, and why Hungary sees itself as leading a continental revolt against supranational elites.

We then turn to Ukraine, Russia, and the future of European security. Orbán argues that the war has become a NATO-Russia proxy conflict, criticises European leaders for pursuing escalation, and explains why Hungary believes that both sides are lying.

A wide-ranging and controversial conversation about power, sovereignty, war, and whether Europe can still reclaim democratic legitimacy in a rapidly changing world.

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Chapters

0:00 Introduction

2:04 Era of the Nations and European Politics

7:14 Hungary's Geopolitical Position and Historical Context

14:28 Migration and Integration in Europe

25:29 Radical Islam and Antifa in Hungary

29:55 Hungary's Relationship with the EU and NATO

36:18 The Ukraine-Russia Conflict and Peace Efforts

45:57 Hungary's View on Putin's Ambitions

52:18 Hungary's NATO Membership and Military Presence

59:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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