In spirit this ideas are very compatible. But two very implementations thereof herbert berkwit says, i've been watching the moving naturalism forward vidios and i've been struck by how often various panalists refer to data as granular or coarse grained. What does that mean? Is there not enough datas? It too vague. It just does something that's crunchy. So it just means that we take some of the data. I don't think that he necessarily got it from me, but we were there first.

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