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Elizabeth Warren on what Barack Obama got wrong

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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The Unrigging of the System

I'm curious about how you think of that on a systemic level. You've always been focused, I think, somewhat uniquely among politicians and the way complexity creates space for power to overtake things. How do you make your concern with complexity into a vision for how to run government? So this was a huge issue for me when I was thinking about setting up the consumer agency. It's the structural problem that complexity requires real resources to navigate.

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