The Fed hiked rates for the sixth time this year. Chair Jay Powell seemed less confident that the central bank could effectively pull down inflation and skirt a recession. But despite those obstacles, more tenacious developers are plowing ahead with these conversions. Later on, you'll hear from a project manager, Heinz, which is behind one of the first pandemic era conversions we've seen.
Industry experts agree: Converting unused office towers to residential buildings is great in theory, but a moonshot to pull off. Despite the grab bag of obstacles that make these projects so difficult, the developer and office landlord Hines is getting in on the action. The Real Deal breaks down how Hines' Salt Lake City project pencils out and what it signals about the right building for the job.
Guests: Steven Paynter, studio director at Gensler's Toronto office; Dusty Harris, senior managing director of Hines' Utah and Oregon investment activity.