Jesse: You've been doing these amazing interviews on basically what I would say, I'll first describe it as the extreme fringe of technology combined with mystery. What got me into this is I have a close friend who's both a high agency, impressive person, he works in finance. In a sort of a past life, he was really involved with the Princeton Para Psychology lab. And so he got me interested in all these experiments in the 60s and 70s and even earlier actually.

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