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Trump's Indictment Could Lock Up Primary, But Lock Out Presidency
The NPR Politics Podcast
The Future of the Electorate
A lot of those voices, though, are people who don't want to win one of the three primaries that I see going on right now. They're trying to become Trump's vice presidential nominee if Trump does win the nomination. And also we may not want to talk about this, but 2028 is a very real thing because Trump and Biden both would have only four more years left. "I think his biggest hope is disaffection with both Trump and Biden"
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