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A.C.: I like to speak with the guests beforehand, just to make sure that there's a good chemistry,. and we discuss the general topics that we want to talk about. Inno: One of the things that i discovered about you in that call is that you are far from being the most famous kilter ah around the world. A.C.: There was a man called a ule ule kilcher a who was in my, i think my grandfather's generation. So he moved to alaska, took his family with him, a and just kind of lived off the land there. And then now they have an area t t show about living in alaska.