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The last Israeli to negotiate with the Palestinians - with Tzipi Livni (Part 1)
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Reflections on Israel's Strength and Historical Context
Reflecting on a moment when Israel felt vulnerable, the chapter emphasizes the country's resilience and departure from historical trauma. It explores the harrowing experiences of young individuals amidst a challenging event on October 7.
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Speaker 2
Sippy, the analogy we've used on this podcast, and it's not original Mika Goodman framed it this way, which is why I refer to it all the time. It's this sense that on that day, October 7, unlike previous wars, unlike previous terrorist attacks, this was the first time that it felt to Israelis like the Jewish state did not exist. I agree. That this is what it was like being in parts of Europe or Russia or Ukraine in another century, or parts of for Jews living in communities in North Africa and the middle in the Arab world, that there is no Jewish state. The Jews are just being massacred, and there's no
Speaker 1
state. Then I more than agree with you. You can find my quotes before October 7, saying that there are those in Israel that try to compare Iran, to the Nazi and so on. I said, listen, Israel is an independent state. With the army, Israel is a strong country. All this. I'm not connected to this comparison, because the situation of the Jews in Israel is not like the situation of the Jews in Europe in 1939. This is something that I was saying, that Israel is not just a ghetto, you know, in the Middle East, with helpless Jews. So I more than agree with you, because this was a moment in which even now I cannot even listen to those young people calling or saying, okay, we are waiting for the army, for sure the army is coming, the army is on the way. And they waited for hours. And this story is entered, killed, right? So yes, it's dreadful moments.
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