Is Plastic Too Cheap?

The fundamental problem is that there's 8 billion people living on this planet and anything that we do is going to have a huge impact on the world. It's only artificially cheap because we allow all the costs to be externalized, all the environmental costs. But if you count them, suddenly it's not so cheap anymore. And I think it's important that we really say these external costs are not just financial. They're health. Yeah. You know, like there's a moral component to this that we can't just ignore for the sake of the science. We need to make a lot of changes.