We need to convince people who don't care about the constitution that they should care about some of the outcomes, or some of the rules that are there in place. If you think you're going to do it by making the world more constitutional, you're living in a fantasy world. Wend i think he's right. We'll have a new piece of paper that no one believes in and that's going to solve your problem. The constitution is literally unconstitutional because it was ratified using a nine out of 13 rule when the existing constitution required 13 out of 13. So that will happen again.

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