Speaker 2
know it's one thing to read that book and it's scary as hell it's another thing to think that it really was happening to you these things are around they're playing mind games with you they're coming in they're taking you out taking you somewhere else against your will and it all turns out to be real people like to say we're ready for the truth
Speaker 1
well yeah maybe and maybe not you know because that's not scary I think we're right on the edge of the truth coming out I think we're very close and it is going to be hard because just a little bit I've seen so far people are already going crazy they're bringing their religions in and their their beliefs and there are people with these absolute certainties you know it's the such and such group and this and that you know the truth is we don't know a darn thing about what this actually is yet and in our excuse me in our context it might be very hard for us to focus this in a way that makes sense to the human mind I think we can focus it to a degree because a lot of us have I mean I have the experiencer group has and you know people have different ways of dealing with it but what it is in a absolutely objective and sort of fundamentally factual way that might be real hard to get to I'm
Speaker 3
I'm curious like you know gonna be honest knowing you is different you know kind of hearing about this a lot of people explain odd bizarre things that occur to them you have to have the majority of people saying Whitley you're making this up this didn't happen you're a novelist you're a novelist you got other traumas you're feeling in the voids you're just trying to make more movies this is what people throughout probably your whole time talking about this so so my question is I have no idea you know you're telling us something how do you deal with that though if what you're saying happened to you how do you deal with the perception of the world you know some people embrace it because they've had similar experiences and they're like oh thank god he's he's telling what happened how do you deal with people that think this is total horseshit
Speaker 1
well there's basically there's three groups of people around one is the people who've had the experience two is the very vast vast majority of people who've never heard of it don't care about it if they have heard of it and then there's another small group of people who want to say it's bullshit and you're a liar and I've been dealing with them all my life and I don't I'm not gonna say that that oh I you know they're but they're wrong etc because they may not be wrong I don't have a baseline in fact in this only two three things the the physical things what happened to me here and outside of my head what happened to me below when I was raped and left scars that could be diagnosed and the implant in my ear which came in in 1989 those three things are physical and the three of them together in my mind indicate something is not right that there is something there is somewhere a baseline there is a physical reality here but I don't know what it is now as far as dealing with these people I can't I would never say to someone who says this is you you are
Speaker 3
making a mistake I would never say they were wrong because I can't prove it yeah so you know you don't blame or feel kind of anything to the people that that in their position they're like this is horseshit you you let them you're saying I can't prove this stuff and so you don't blame them for having that kind of resistance or attitude yeah I don't see why I should
Speaker 1
right but I do get pissed off when they bully me oh yeah I've been bullied a lot and I don't like that I I think it's wrong do
