Keeping an Underdog Mentality

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I would say that's, I would say being able to stay present in the work is probably the most important part of it. And how you feel is less of an issue, unless how you feel gets in the way of you feeling how the work makes you feel. If you're in a lot of pain and you're looking at a piece of art, it may be hard to know how that art makes you feel because the big signal in your body is the physical pain. There's this idea of transmutation of taking one emotion and contorting it and co-opting it into another action in an adaptive way.

My guest is Rick Rubin, one of the most renowned music producers of all time, known for his work with a wide range of artists, including Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, JayZ, Adele, Johnny Cash, LL Cool J, Slayer, Neil Young, Ye (formerly Kayne West), Tom Petty, and many more. He is also the author of a new book, "The Creative Act: A Way of Being," which explores the creative process and how to access creativity. We discuss topics such as finding inspiration, the role of feelings as guideposts, learning from observing nature, balancing self-doubt and anxiety, and adopting new perspectives to channel the creative process. Rick also shares his thoughts on using deadlines, eliminating distractions, and how our experiences and emotions influence the creative process. Additionally, we discuss his love for professional wrestling. Our conversation can be applied to any activity or profession to access creativity.

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Timestamps

(00:00:00) Rick Rubin

(00:04:24) Sponsor: LNT

(00:08:23) Creativity & Ideas, Cloud Analogy

(00:12:26) Language & Creativity; Kids

(00:17:36) Feelings & Creative Ideas

(00:22:01) Rules, Choice & Art; Personal Taste & Other’s Opinions

(00:29:59) Sponsor: AG1

(00:30:20) Changing Perspective & Creativity

(00:35:04) Scientific Knowledge; Opinions & Art

(00:41:27) Finishing Projects; The Source & Nature

(00:47:40) Perception Filters, Contrast & Novelty

(00:58:42) Music & Identity, Evolving Tastes

(01:04:14) Focus, Disengaging & Subconscious; Anxiety

(01:13:22) Collaboration, Art & Rigorous Work

(01:18:26) Process & “Cloud”; Perception & Storytelling

(01:29:13) Limited Resolution, Considering the Inverse

(01:35:38) Wrestling, Energy & Reality; Dopamine

(01:49:43) Wrestling, Style & Performance

(01:52:40) Resetting Energy & Nature; Nostalgia

(02:01:56) Sleep, Waking Up & Sunlight, Capturing Ideas

(02:08:16) Creative Work Phases; Structure & Deadlines

(02:15:32) Self-Doubt & Performance

(02:19:13) Predictability & Surprise, Authenticity

(02:25:02) Past Experiences, Other’s Opinions

(02:29:42) Public Opinion & Science: Light, Acupuncture & Nutrition

(02:39:44) “Look for Clues”, Belief Effects

(02:46:25) Attention, Emotion & Art

(02:48:07) Mantra Meditation, Awareness Meditation

(02:57:33) Rick Rubin Questions, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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