I was disgusted with my industry because even all these huge podcasts that maybe didn't need to do it. It's just a way to be like alright bitch get in the game Let's go, you know, you got to work. You got shit to prove but I'll say when when where things change until episode 87. The thing that really made the difference with my podcast is that there's only one reason it found success. And it's not because of what happens in here that ended up carrying it. But I had to get people clicking on a three-hour episode which again told you had to be a little stupid to do something like this.

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