Lockbit's Hacker Version of Locker Room Talk

John DeMajio was in a chat room when Lockbit started crowing about his latest victim, a small Canadian town called St. Mary's. When we come back, we hear from someone on the receiving end of Lockbit's product development efforts. They shut us down on how to penetrate systems. How do you compete against that? And learn more about the man who made Lockbit what it is today.