It's a a of overcoming economy's a scale problem. If you're small, you stay o mall, exactly. What is large? For example, a restaurant with a hundred table is large. But company that makes manufactures, i dont now, chemicals, you know, needs to be howlest times the size to be large. Thesar or thousand times the size. So it depends on the domain. And it looks like the thing that require centralization is a military. I will argue also, pandemics, and have argued that that people like von misus and hak said the state is needed for centralized activity such as epidemics and wars. They didn't hate the