"I spend all my life doing nothing else but this, and it's still incredibly hard to imagine how the future looks in a world where if Simon Weishow is right," he says. "How did we go from 19 rolling terawatts power to five? And how did we dismantle the whole of economics and the whole of manufacture and a governance system in which old white men rule?" He also talks about his new novel 'Thrutopia' with friends who are trying to write novels that will step forward into a future look back.

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