i think that part of the problem that i have with this book maybe is coon as philosopher, where i think a lot of the things that he says are under specified and not precise. So, on the one hand, he says, it's only through persuasion that this is going to happen. But then inin the very next sentence, he says, but the persuasion is going to be good when it's based on good reasons - which i just take to be, well, yes. I mean, truth persuades people, but it's not, it's good reasons.

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