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Episode 1372 - Jann Wenner
WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
The New York Times
I found Donald Trump despicable even then. I wouldn't, I wouldn't really have anything to do with him. And just in general, you know, in New York coming up for people go to make their careers and all the stuff. These are not like billionaire type people. But it's a, it's a very sophisticated world.
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