"I noticed that they all seem to have roots and what I think are like trust issues for me with. Like the easiest example I can use right now because I was actually interested in doing the coaching program and all that, but I noticed I kept checking out before doing it," he said. "It's really ironic now that I'm like in front of what I don't know how many people are in this chat right now and I'm just I try not to pay attention."

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