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Fapu jenna and Steve levitt talk about making play a priority. Levitt: "I don't mind being terrible at things ... but anything i put effort into, need to be really good" After this break, they'll return to talk about some of fapu's re on copet. If you have a question for us, please write in the emal addresses, pima at freconomics dot com.