Was There a Specific Moment or Conversation That Led to That Realization?

Cayler: The documentary is not even close to being done the direction that it's taking, so why don't we make it its own thing? And at that point, cayler really grabbed the bull by the horns and went for it. He says he always had an idea of what fokar was but then there would be like all manner of stuff that i haven't ever talked about before. "Every time i interviewed a new person or a new people came up with a new idea which just kept growing"