Listen to conversations between two veterans of the crypto industry: Su Zhu, CEO and CIO of Three Arrows Capital, and Hasu, Strategy lead at Flashbots. Exploring the big ideas in crypto from first principles.

In this episode, Hasu continues the conversation with Danny Ryan and Tim Beiko, two researchers from the Ethereum Foundation. The three are joined by Stephane Gosselin, co-founder of Flashbots, who makes his podcast debut and stands in as Hasu's co-host. 

Together, they discuss:

• MEV before and after the Merge
• mev-boost and proposer-builder-separation (PBS)
• The rise of liquid staking pools
• Whether Lido should cap its own growth
• How the Ethereum Foundation sees its role in interacting with very "protocol-adjacent" projects like Flashbots + Lido

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