The Discomfort of a Cultural Shift

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I feel that when I speak to Irish guys who'd be you know kind of the generation like below me for instance. The way a lot of them think about their identity as men and about masculinity has like shifted so much, she says. She also thinks discomfort is a sign of something good gradually happening not straightforwardly but it still hasn't set yet.

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!

This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.

What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.

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