In this episode, MTI's interns conducted a Q&A Rob Shaul covering key principles in strength and conditioning. Rob discusses his most unique coaching experience—whitewater kayakers—highlighting the upper-body-focused training and sport-specific programming he developed to meet their needs.

He explains the rationale behind his TLU (Total Lower and Upper) complex training method, which pairs heavy lifts with low-rep explosive bodyweight exercises to enhance strength and power. The conversation emphasizes Rob’s belief in simplifying training programs over time, with a focus on real-world performance rather than gym-based metrics. He critiques conventional approaches like plyometrics, mobility work, and elaborate warm-ups, arguing they offer little return compared to straightforward, mission-specific training.

Rob stresses the value of developing athlete assessments to guide programming, citing MTI’s extensive history of creating job- and sport-specific tests. He shares how many of MTI’s effective exercises evolved through testing and athlete feedback, and describes current experiments on strength maintenance with minimal training volume, power-based work capacity, and sled push applications.

The discussion reflects MTI’s core philosophy: simplify where possible, test relentlessly, and always train for performance outside the gym.

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