The consumer doesn't give a shit about sexy rails in your skyscraper analysis they want to be in the penthouse for me it's yeah the consumer wants to ride the train. The best test of are they sexy to us is if the user, especially like the new to web through user doesn't even notice them. And so I think that's probably the tension that we have is the rails have to be right. They have to be sexy to us. Yeah I'm excited to get into inflation. So on the sexy rails, you have this unique experience where you've done a lot of things to have you for this venture studio and building these companies yourself. How do you push that to

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