Introduction

Dr. Gary Penn is on the show today and I don't have anything to plug up top. Get ready for a real, a real love fest and a lot of just beautiful, deep wisdom from this wonderful man who does have a book that is available now. You're also going to enjoy, I hope, I'm going to,. I hope you're going to, I loved it, I hope you love it. This is incredible chat. So he like installed his software in my brain, helped me and now we got back together to talk to one another  and it was so wonderful, this beautiful friendship homecoming. The idea that you go to therapy and they're like,