i think the lesson that showsis is that if you have a cor set of people willing to try things that any more sorof sober, long standing, experienced veterans of the labor movement would say as impossible. People were very afraid of being demoralized with loss. But certainly, like louis, i've spoken to members of a u who said they saw that loss and thought, well, shot, if somebody can try it in alabama, why not try it in new york? So i think, yo, it's really not a binary here. It's good that a lot of established unions now have come hat in hand to ail you and said, what resource resources can we