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5.5 What gives you joy? with Laura Brand

Saturn Returns with Caggie

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Are You a Micro Manager?

"i'm not like a cured micro manage. I'm still, i, it's still one of my defaults, you know," she says. "It was in that period of time wher literaly had to go through a sort of withdrawal." She also talks about how her discipline well being is a luxury but prevents her from letting her body go.

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