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The Tension in Our Culture to Follow Jesus
There's a sense of like, the liberals are secular. The conservatives are more Christian among a lot of Christians. That's the perception. Can you help us see like secularism? Is there, is it just for the liberals or is there a conservative form of secularism where it's creeped in? And so, if there is, then what does the secular Jesus look like and what does the conservative Jesus look likeIf that slide in terms of secularism is kind of creeping in to those, say, ideological camps or whatever.