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Episode 535: Amy Chozick

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Elizabeth Holmes: The Story of the Implosion of Theranos

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The author spent a week with Elizabeth Holmes in San Diego. The blood testing startup Theranos imploded in one of the most spectacular cases of corporate fraud in recent history. "I think of it as like sort of part voyeuristic, like what is her life like now and partly kind of getting into the psychology," she says.

Amy Chozick is an author, journalist, executive producer, and showrunner. Her latest feature for The New York Times is ”Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth.”

“The subject thought it was a hit job. Twitter thought it was a puff piece. I don’t know, guys. … I want to explain to people what it feels like to be around someone who you know you shouldn’t believe, but you can’t help believing them because this is what their personality is like when you’re with them.”

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@amychozick
amychozick.com
Chozick on Longform
Chozick's New York Times archive
00:00 "Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth" (New York Times • May 2023)
02:00 The Dropout (ABC Audio • 2019)
06:00 "You Know the Lorena Bobbitt Story. But Not All of It." (New York Times • Jan 2019)
24:00 Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup (John Carreyou • Vintage • 2020)
49:00 The Dropout (Hulu • 2022)

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