The speakers discuss the concept of proportionality in conflicts, exploring examples from Ukraine and Gaza. They delve into the numerical, moral, and spiritual aspects of proportionality, as well as how it applies to nations with nuclear weapons. The chapter also touches on the importance of strategic leadership and the tasks that leaders must fulfill in conflicts.
Debate is a form of conflict that is played out through civility, and the capability to exchange ideas with people we disagree with. But what leads leaders and countries to fall into conflict? In this conversation with Retired U.S. Army General David H. Petraeus and historian Lord Andrew Roberts, guest moderator Xenia Wickett speaks with them about their new book, the nature of military conflict, and how civil debate and conflict are intertwined.
Our Guests:
General David H. Petraeus, U.S. Army Retired General; Chairman of the KKR Global Institute; Former CIA Director
Andrew Roberts, Biographer, Historian, and Member of the U.K. Parliament
Xenia Wickett, Geopolitical strategist and moderator at Wickett Advisory and Trustee of Transparency International UK, is the guest moderator.
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