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Ellie Ward will be at Wundercon in Anaheim on March 24th, 2023. She'll lead a panel about climate change and art with friends from the organization Functional Magic. The full version of this episode is for grownups but if you're down for a family friendly, shorter version, this one is for you.

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Ichthyology is not easy to say, but fish are easy to love. Dr. Chris Thacker will get you so thrilled to stare into a pond or look up pictures of silvery sea serpent-looking fish friends.

Hilariously charming fish expert and LA County Natural History Museum Curator of Ichthyology, Dr. Thacker took Alie to a basement full of several million jars of fish to chat about the worst fish husbands, the weirdest mating behaviors, the scariest fish, the nicest fish, the tiniest fish, how they breathe, how you can help reverse global warming, and whether you should pee in wetsuits. I love her so much and so will you.

(For the adult version, the full-length episode is linked below.)

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Full-length (not classroom-friendly) episode + tons of science links

A donation went to: SeafoodWatch.org

Other full-length episodes you may enjoy: Oceanology (OCEANS), Cnidariology (CORALS), Environmental Toxicology (POISONS), Selachimorphology (SHARKS), Elasmobranchology (MORE SHARK STORIES)

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Sound editing by Steven Ray Morris, Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio, and Jarrett Sleeper of MindJam Media

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