When we had sonicanitle, the kind of an setting that we were thinking of was just, i'm going to prove a hundred proofs from different parties. And after the miner has run the extra computation, we're then going to have something which is actually succinct and you can nacturally verify very quickly. Em trying to explain this model to, like, external people and er reviewers and this sort of thing, am didn't work very well. But what did work was coming up with an alternative scheme, which was like actual, universal, actual, am succinct from the very first time that you prove anything. Both plank and marlin are in production now. This is just tat

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