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#005 Joe Hertler: Tapping Into Creative Genius & Pursuing Joy Through Creativity

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You're on the Same Bus, Now You Can

I think it started was just like hanging out and being buds, then you jam, and it's fun. Ithink got a big shift we've had in the band lately is just trying to hold ourselves accountable for a certain standard of what we're doing. So i've geerally been pushing for a much more disciplined environment within the group. We all won't want the same thing, like its not a difficult conversation to have. Its like let's be better. Here's how we're gong to be better.

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