Richard reflects on combating the 'vicious mind virus' with a milder form or choosing enlightened rationality. The chapter ends playfully with a comment on being a 'religious anti-vaxxer'.
At the UnHerd-sponsored Dissident Dialogues Festival in New York, Richard Dawkins and Ayaan Hirsi Ali discussed her recent conversion to Christianity, and whether the whole ‘New Atheism’ movement of which they had both been key members had done more harm than good.