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194: Deep Souls with Kathryn Haydon

Pivot with Jenny Blake

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The Deep Soul of Michael

Jenny McCarthy: I love how you refuse to label like this. How very deep soul of you. It does remind me so much of Michael, my husband, who I think you've met in person. And he struck me so much as a deep soul. We just did an episode together on the fact that he's a rebel in Gretchen Rubin's Fortin and C-Spring work. The episode is called the pondering method for rebels because as soon as there's a plan, he wants to break it or go against it.

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