The Evolution of Cloyce's Relationship With Non-Professional Actors

Ferns van is an internal space you know this is where we see her go back into her memories probably see at her lowest points in the van and it's kind of this almost like underworld of the movies how i kind of saw it that in a world of the character. visually the kind of chiaroscuro lighting and the kind of um the dark is and also in the van it's some the only times you'll see people front lit against the back against the darkness of the van. You just need to be as invisible as possible just easier said than done depending on how you want to look because we don't want to do Ken Lote  we want we want we want