Speaker 2
No. Okay. So the baking soda, let's, I'm really glad we can clear this up. Because that was my thing. That was my thing in school. Baking soda boy.
Speaker 2
was baking soda boy. Really? Yeah,, yeah. It's just a
Speaker 2
Well, yes and no. So Armand Hammer Baking Soda was owned by a company called Church & Dwight, which was like a big massive holding company, right? And Armand Hammer was one of the subsidiaries of Church & Dwight. My great grandfather became very successful with art and oil and stuff like that. And then he said, oh my god, this company is my name. I'd like to buy the company. They said, uh, no. Oh, so it was his name. It was Arm and Hammer. It was Arm and Hammer, but it was the company Arm and Hammer Baking Soda was around before he was born. That's so interesting. Yeah. So it wasn't like, it wasn't named after him. It was meant to be. Meant to be. Yeah. So then he did that sort of like very goofy, rich guy thing, that you can only do if you have too much money, where he goes, no, no, no, but it's my name. I want your company. And they go, no, no, it's not for sale. And then it became a publicly offered company, or publicly traded company, and he bought up a majority of the stock.
Speaker 1
Look, nobody who takes himself from... He wasn't rich when he was born. Wasn't he in Russia at first?
Speaker 2
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1
His family was sent to
Speaker 2
America by the Kremlin to start the Communist Party. Right. Okay. So they were doctors, but they were... Yeah,
Speaker 1
I mean, even as a kid, when I was interested in history and politics, I mean, I was my father, a newsman. So, I knew who Armand Hammer was, and it was always in Russia. He was always like with the... He was like... And I think I was right. He was one of our liaisons. He had deep roots there. And when you look back on it, it's like, oh yeah, he was a communist until he got rich.
Speaker 1
like, who wants to be a rich communist?
