The Fear of Agents

Some of the authors like Hugh Howe, you'll be the classic one or Andy Weir with the Martian, like they were a decade ago now. Those early authors, when indie was more new, well, the sort of the, in the Kindle store, they did get the sort of print only deals and some authors are still getting those. Most, most indie authors who are then doing hybrid are writing new series or new books or new,. like it has to be new basically.